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Vivaldi, the web browser from the original Opera browser co-founder, has released a major new version with the Ecosia search engine and some UI customization.

The Ecosia search engine is a new one to me! Ecosia claim they plant trees with revenue from adverts, so it does sound like a nice search engine if you don't mind adverts.

Vivaldi itself gained the ability to drag and move around extensions on the UI, so you can now order them how you like.

You can also adjust what folder screenshots from within Vivaldi get stored in, they improved their URL autocomplete algorithm, you now have the ability to sort notes and the usual performance and security fixes are included.

See the full release notes here.

Do you use Vivaldi?
qptain_Nemo commented on 27 April 2017 at 10:05 am UTC

I keep Vivaldi installed, poke around in it sometimes, use it for alternative logins and such and it's even nice enough to want to use it as the main browser but I'm also 100% content with the current Opera and tired of switching browsers so... it stays this way for now.


STiAT commented on 27 April 2017 at 11:22 am UTC

I like trees. I'll try to use ecosia now. Results seem sane so far.


drvictor666 commented on 27 April 2017 at 11:24 am UTC

When Opera 12 has finally became too outdated, I switched to Chrome for daily browsing, but for years, I secretly hoped for a miracle to come. And it has come, eventually, with Vivaldi 1.0. It has immediately became my main browser and has only improved since then. I've tried Opera few times, but apart from the nostalgia (it used to be my main browser since version 4!), I've found nothing of the old charm. I hope Vivaldi adds cloud sync option one day, the lack of it can still put many people off, but it's not a show stopper for me. As a web developer, I use FF, Chrome and Safari simultaneously at all times, each dedicated to a different task, but Vivaldi, I use for browsing and fun


MayeulC commented on 27 April 2017 at 4:48 pm UTC

Just one small request: Could we separate news for non-open source applications? Like a closed source (Or proprietary App) tag, or something like this. Or at least a small mention in the article. I do not care so much about closed source games, but I like to use open source software whenever possible, and it's not obvious that Vivaldi isn't


Purple_Library_Guy commented on 27 April 2017 at 9:34 pm UTC

MayeulCJust one small request: Could we separate news for non-open source applications? Like a closed source (Or proprietary App) tag, or something like this. Or at least a small mention in the article. I do not care so much about closed source games, but I like to use open source software whenever possible, and it's not obvious that Vivaldi isn't
I agree. Games are a bit different. For one thing, in point of fact non-Free games dominate. For another, much of what makes a game a game is stuff like art, story, level designs if applicable and so on--things that, for instance, Richard Stallman agrees are a different kind of thing copyright-wise from programs or recipes. Stallman himself has a nuanced approach to the question of games and Free Software. Probably he'd be fine with Free game engines mounting proprietary content, or something like that.

But normal software isn't really like that, and it's perhaps not a co-incidence that in most non-game areas Free software is much more viable than in games, in some spaces even dominant. So this site is likely to be a little different from the game site on that issue. Where it's both realistic and clearly the most ethical choice, I'd prefer to see FLOSS emphasized and for it to be clear when something under discussion isn't Free software.

So for instance, in browsers it's not like there aren't plenty of good open source options, so if this is closed I'm not interested. Other people are likely to have different perspectives and that's fine, but I'd be happy to know up front and that won't do any harm to people who would be interested anyway.


Creak commented on 28 April 2017 at 4:14 am UTC

Purple_Library_GuyI agree. Games are a bit different. For one thing, in point of fact non-Free games dominate. For another, much of what makes a game a game is stuff like art, story, level designs if applicable and so on--things that, for instance, Richard Stallman agrees are a different kind of thing copyright-wise from programs or recipes. Stallman himself has a nuanced approach to the question of games and Free Software. Probably he'd be fine with Free game engines mounting proprietary content, or something like that.

R. Stallman does have a nuanced approach, but I'm pretty sure he would not advice to play closed-source games anyway. His words would probably be that you can do it if you want, but know that you're losing your freedom doing this. Especially if you're using DRMed games.

But back to the current news, I think it's sane to know what the competitors are doing, even if they are closed-source. Chrome is closed source, but I do think it's important that people understand why it is so widely used. It's not just because of the marketing power of Google, since that would not work in the long term, people would have tested Chrome and say it's garbage. But they didn't, because apparently Chrome answers a problem that the user where having with Firefox (and IE). Even some open source guys are using Chrome. Well, my point is, knowing the competition is good for us (and we don't look like a cult, which is a plus ).

That being said, a "Closed source" tag might be a good idea. Since the main goal of LifeOnLinux is about free software, I don't think it's useful to tag the other news as "Open source", that we already know


MayeulC commented on 28 April 2017 at 7:47 am UTC

Question:

Creak
Purple_Library_GuyI agree. Games are a bit different. For one thing, in point of fact non-Free games dominate. For another, much of what makes a game a game is stuff like art, story, level designs if applicable and so on--things that, for instance, Richard Stallman agrees are a different kind of thing copyright-wise from programs or recipes. Stallman himself has a nuanced approach to the question of games and Free Software. Probably he'd be fine with Free game engines mounting proprietary content, or something like that.

R. Stallman does have a nuanced approach, but I'm pretty sure he would not advice to play closed-source games anyway. His words would probably be that you can do it if you want, but know that you're losing your freedom doing this. Especially if you're using DRMed games.

But back to the current news, I think it's sane to know what the competitors are doing, even if they are closed-source. Chrome is closed source, but I do think it's important that people understand why it is so widely used. It's not just because of the marketing power of Google, since that would not work in the long term, people would have tested Chrome and say it's garbage. But they didn't, because apparently Chrome answers a problem that the user where having with Firefox (and IE). Even some open source guys are using Chrome. Well, my point is, knowing the competition is good for us (and we don't look like a cult, which is a plus ).

That being said, a "Closed source" tag might be a good idea. Since the main goal of LifeOnLinux is about free software, I don't think it's useful to tag the other news as "Open source", that we already know

I mostly agree, though in fairness Chromium (thus Blink, and v8 as well) is technically free software (though licensing seems to be a mess, looking at the Wikipedia page).


Creak commented on 28 April 2017 at 3:33 pm UTC

MayeulCI mostly agree, though in fairness Chromium (thus Blink, and v8 as well) is technically free software (though licensing seems to be a mess, looking at the Wikipedia page).
It's true, but Chrome is not Chromium, it is merely based on it. Google adds a whole bunch of trackers and personal tweaks on top of Chromium. Moreover Chromium is negligible in the web browsers market share.


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